Nathan Gwilliam
May 26, 2026
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How to Break out of the Burnout Loop Killing Your Podcast (with Michal McCracken)

Most podcasters think they quit because they lose motivation. The real reason is more physical than they'd expect. Michal McCracken is a transformational coach and host of the Space and Grace Podcast who helps entrepreneurs build abundant businesses without burning out, by working with the nervous system rather than against it. She built and sold a thriving pet care business, made great money, had amazing staff, and still found herself sitting in her car one morning convinced she was having a heart attack. In this episode of Podcasting Secrets with host Nathan Gwilliam, Michal reveals why your body treats the publish button like a survival threat, how the three nervous system states (ventral vagal, sympathetic, and dorsal vagal) show up as procrastination, distraction, and pod fade, and how to negotiate with yourself to keep publishing without white-knuckling through the resistance. Your body isn't broken. It's doing exactly what it was designed to do. The question is whether you know how to work with it. Subscribe and follow Podcasting Secrets on Apple, Spotify and YouTube for weekly insights from creators building shows that last. Follow, Like & Subscribe: Podcasting Secrets: Website: https://podcastingsecrets.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@podcasting-secrets Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/podcastingsecrets/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/poduppodcasting/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcasting-secrets/id1726056241 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0edA45tyPxFRfiUmDxYSUj Nathan Gwilliam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathangwilliam/ Michal McCracken: Website: https://www.spaceandgrace.me/resources LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michal-mccracken/ Podcast (Apple): https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/space-and-grace-podcast-abundant-business-without-burnout/id1776927699 Podcast (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/show/7Lz9vFTiRaWzwPuDloUZEg

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Most podcasters think they quit because they lose motivation. The real reason is more physical than they'd expect. Michal McCracken is a transformational coach and host of the Space and Grace Podcast who helps entrepreneurs build abundant businesses without burning out, by working with the nervous system rather than against it. She built and sold a thriving pet care business, made great money, had amazing staff, and still found herself sitting in her car one morning convinced she was having a heart attack.

In this episode of Podcasting Secrets with host Nathan Gwilliam, Michal reveals why your body treats the publish button like a survival threat, how the three nervous system states (ventral vagal, sympathetic, and dorsal vagal) show up as procrastination, distraction, and pod fade, and how to negotiate with yourself to keep publishing without white-knuckling through the resistance.

Your body isn't broken. It's doing exactly what it was designed to do. The question is whether you know how to work with it. Subscribe and follow Podcasting Secrets on Apple, Spotify and YouTube for weekly insights from creators building shows that last.

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Podcasting Secrets: Website: https://podcastingsecrets.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@podcasting-secrets
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/podcastingsecrets/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/poduppodcasting/
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcasting-secrets/id1726056241
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0edA45tyPxFRfiUmDxYSUj

Nathan Gwilliam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathangwilliam/

Michal McCracken: Website: https://www.spaceandgrace.me/resources
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michal-mccracken/
Podcast (Apple): https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/space-and-grace-podcast-abundant-business-without-burnout/id1776927699
Podcast (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/show/7Lz9vFTiRaWzwPuDloUZEg


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